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		<title>What Is The Nature Of The Gods?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has read through my posts will know that I do not regard myself as a &#8220;theist&#8221;, so might be a bit puzzled as to why I entitle a post &#8220;The Nature of Gods&#8221; since, as I have no direct relationship (in a personal sense) with any Gods, anything I think and have to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-149" title="god-bunnyjpg" src="http://www.animystic.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/god-bunnyjpg.jpg" alt="god-bunnyjpg" width="140" height="199" />Anyone who has read through my posts will know that I do not regard myself as a &#8220;theist&#8221;, so might be a bit puzzled as to why I entitle a post &#8220;The Nature of Gods&#8221; since, as I have no direct relationship (in a personal sense) with any Gods, anything I think and have to say on the matter must necessarily be abstract.</p>
<p>The thing is, I am not an atheist&#8230; I seem to fall into that category that one thoughtful poster on a forum I frequent referred to as having a &#8220;radically more <span>nuanced</span> position than the doctrinaire, materialist-reductionist, stance you tend to find among your classic Bertrand Russell sort of atheists. And sometimes seems to converge, albeit not actually meet, with similarly <span>nuanced</span> beliefs about the nature of divinity held by many Pagan polytheists.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I have said before, my sensory relationship is with those I would choose to refer as the living community of the spirit of my ancestors. But within that relationship I am drawn to various non-human people who would certainly share qualities that I might recognise as being of &#8220;Godness&#8221;.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-150" title="kali" src="http://www.animystic.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/kali-210x300.jpg" alt="kali" width="210" height="300" />I also recognise a hierarchy of power and influence within the non-human and that can lead to a perception of some beings as Gods. In the discussions I&#8217;ve had with polytheists about the matter, having more &#8220;power&#8221; has often been one of the key characteristics of godhood.</p>
<p>Problem I have with that is that many people have power, both non-human and human, and we rarely (at least in the context of the culture I am embedded within) elevate human persons to Godhood in this stage of their existence, and it makes little sense to me to reserve godhood for non-human persons based on a hierarchical power relationship alone.</p>
<p>So what can I hold as being sufficient and/or necessary for defining status of Godhood? I had the pleasure of Heron on CF encouraging me to be a little more robust than I might otherwise have been in my thoughts on this matter whilst contributing a broadening perspective, and I realise that it is by no means a question with a simple answer. What is the nature of the Gods?</p>
<p>Somehow, it seems to boil down to the Gods having an intrinsic and fundamental involvement with aspects of our experience of reality that are in and of themselves intrinsic and fundamental. So to me, the spirit of a place may not be a god (though in some cases it may be&#8230; the cultural manifestation and significance of a place would have a real bearing on that), though it is a powerful person worthy of respect&#8230; but the spirit of time, the spirit of transition, the forces that cleave the world and create distinction. These would strike me as being very difficult to place in anything other than the &#8220;God&#8221; category.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m just coming to understand that the answers are not going to be conceptually neat and clean <img src='http://www.animystic.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  If I was going to take a pop, I&#8217;d say that the nature of Gods is to sustain reality and our experience of reality. I would also say that it is in the nature of Gods not to sit in human boxes. <img src='http://www.animystic.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Why I am not a polytheist</title>
		<link>http://www.animystic.org.uk/2009/09/01/why-i-am-not-a-polytheist/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>As if anyone is really going to care  </p>
<p>But it interests me. Many people who have an animistic perspective describe a polytheistic world-view. I&#8217;ve never been able to do that, probably for a number of epidemiological nit picky reasons and for some person history ones.</p>
<p>Theism refers to belief in deity, which I understand to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-105" title="cernunnos" src="http://www.animystic.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/cernunnos-209x300.jpg" alt="cernunnos" width="209" height="300" />As if anyone is really going to care <img src='http://www.animystic.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But it interests me. Many people who have an animistic perspective describe a polytheistic world-view. I&#8217;ve never been able to do that, probably for a number of epidemiological nit picky reasons and for some person history ones.</p>
<p>Theism refers to belief in deity, which I understand to be supernatural. I have no need for a supernatural element in my world view. That which exists, that which I can stand in relation to, is natural.</p>
<p>Theism and deity also relate in my understanding to a &#8220;creator from nothing&#8221; God. To me the existence of &#8220;creation from nothing&#8221; is a divine mystery but does not require me to invoke a supernatural (which a &#8220;creator from nothing&#8221; God would necessarily be) being in explanation. This may indeed be a hang over from a High Anglican upbringing (not heavy but always present).</p>
<p>The beings referred to by some as Gods or Goddesses I regard as people who contribute to how I am defined and I contribute to how they are defined by the nature of my relationship with them (I don&#8217;t have a relationship with many, and that a distant kinship through my Ancestors at best), just as with any other persons, human or otherwise.</p>
<p>While I do distinguish between categories of people (bird, animal, tree, story, poem, thought), the category of God has too much baggage for me, and describes a relationship I do not find myself wishing to be defined by, nor would I wish to define others in that way. I prefer to think that there are people with different realms of experiences, who stand in relationship to me as having different powers, different responsibilities, different authority.</p>
<p>I guess if I was going to describe my self as anything, it would have to be a polypersonist <img src='http://www.animystic.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And please please please do not take this as an attempt in any way to denigrate the beliefs and experiences of polytheists. It isn&#8217;t. It is an attempt to iron out for myself why I have always had real difficulty with words like theism, theology, deity</p>
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